Historical perspectives

Why history?

It is difficult to write anything comprehensive on the matter of matter, given the breadth and scope in the ways it has been dealt with. I’d like to spend some time demonstrating the historical differences in thought, not only to illustrate the complexity of the question, but to offer answers at different ‘resolutions’ and between different ways of thinking.

Ancient philosophers

The ancient philosopher’s view on matter was based on certain arguments primarily regarding the way matter logically must be. That is, it was focused on deductive reasoning from axioms, not inductive reasoning from observations.

What Plato claimed

Plato’s dialogues, such as “The Phaedo”, “The Timaeus” and possibly “The Parmenides”#todo/research argue for an idea called the theory of forms

What Aristotle claimed

Aristotle made more effort describing and explaining physical phenomena. Here are same claims he made about the subject of matter in his Physics

1. He doesn’t agree with the theory of forms

Here he says he doesn’t thing “natural scientists” agree with it

Now these are contraries, which taken universally are excess and deficiency, as are the great and the small in Plato, except that he makes these be matter, and the one be form (eidos), whereas they make the one the underlying matter and the contraries be differentiae (diaphora), that is, forms (eidos).

Physics, I, 187a1 - 15

Here he says outright that “substance is an underlying things”, and claiming “Each and every one of them” implies it’s the only underlying thing.

The things which have a nature are those which have the kind of source I have been talking about. Each and every one of them is a substance, since substance is an underlying thing, and only underlying things can have a nature.

Physics, II, 192b8 - b32

#todo/research

2. He believes matter may not be arbitrarily small or large

if a part can be of any size whatsoever in the direction of greatness and of smallness, then it must also be possible for the thing itself be so (by “parts” I mean components present in the whole into which the whole can be divided). If, on the other hand, it is impossible for an animal or a plant to be of any size whatsoever, in the direction of greatness and of smallness, it is evident that none of its parts can be either. For if it could, so similarly could the whole. But flesh and bone and things of that sort are parts of an animal, and fruits are parts of plants. It is clear, therefore, that it is impossible for flesh or bone or any other such thing to be of any size whatsoever,

Physics, I, 187b10 - 20

It’s unclear whether he’s speaking of the material here. It seems not to be material, but based on observed nature of plants an animals, except later, he says, seemingly building on this conclusion:

if all such things are already present in each other, and do not come to be but instead, being present within, are segregated out; and if they are called [what they are] after whatever there is more of; and if anything can come to be from anything (for example, if water can be segregated out from flesh, and flesh from water); and if every limited body is done away with by [subtracting] a limited body: it is evident that it is not possible for everything to be present in everything. For if flesh is subtracted from water, and if this is done again by segregation from what remains, even if what is subtracted is always smaller, still it will not be smaller than a certain magnitude.

Physics, I, 187b21 - 30 This certainly seems material, since flesh extracted from just any volume of water would not be part of a whole organism.

Regardless of his reasoning, his opinion on the matter is clear.

there is no smallest magnitude

Physics, I, 188a12

3. He argues for the existence of “Prime Matter”

Aristotle makes the claim in the beginning of this argument, at the end of his deconstruction of opposing arguments

from what is not nothing can come to be. For there must be some underlying subject [for it to come from].

This seems to be him paraphrasing the axioms of his opposition, but he doesn’t disagree, he merely thinks they made a mistake in how limited they were considering being. He believes that the natural sciences require this kind of axiom (Lost the source on this, it’s probably in the beginning of book 1 or 2) something cannot come from nothing 1

Physics, I, 191a29 - 191a30

Footnotes

  1. Aristotle holds this to be a major axiom in natural sciences, Physics, I, 191a29 - 191a30